So happy to kick off the JOYful holiday season with Hannah Marcotti of Mama Space. Hannah blends a background in holistic health with a love of marketing and a generous helping of joyful living to coach holistic entrepreneurs and moms to create gorgeous lives.

In this interview we chat about:

• How Hannah got to this point in her coaching business.

• The Holiday Joy Up: 10 days of inspiration November 26th to December 5th
Cost: Pay what you can. You’ll receive daily letters from Hannah that include: recipes, guest contributors, soul work, and affirmations.There’s a Facebook group to support you, too. (afilliate link)

• Doing It All A free call for holistic health and wellness entrepreneurs, Monday Dec. 12, 2011 at 8:30pm ET.

• What the holidays look like at Hannah’s house.

• Hannah’s advice for momma entrepreneurs as we head into the holidays.

Enjoy the video or read the transcript below.

Hannah Marcotti believes that you + joy = the gorgeous life. The gorgeous life is the sparkle, the joy, the magical moments. It is your food intuition, your deep body knowledge, your desire. It is space, it is touch, it is yours. She is the coach who will guide your course there. Hannah can be found dancing in the joy of her own life surrounded by three kids, a puppy and a beautiful man she has had the pleasure of being with for 18 years. Writing, business coaching and helping others discover their joy in this world is her purpose, proving that we can take action on whatever our heart is willing to dream up. Dream, define and take the action your heart desires is her daily mantra.

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Transcript

Christie: Hi everybody! It’s Christie Halmick with Jewels Branch Creative and I’m very happy today to have Hannah Marcotti with me. Hi Hannah!

Hannah: Hello.

Christie: I wanted to read a little short bit from Hannah’s website. Hannah is a…I would call her a life and business coach for women and holistic entrepreneurs and umm …. I’m losing my train of thought, so I’m going to read what I have. OK.

This is what Hannah says on her website, about when she’s coaching you, what it’s like.

“I will ask you from a place of wanting your gorgeous life to unfold, to look at the tough stuff. To simplify. To not let yourself off in easy ways, but to walk through your fears and discover how all of your challenges become your gifts in this life. This gorgeous life.”

I love that because I think it sums up Hannah very well. The only thing that’s missing from it is this little piece, Joy.

So, I wanted to let Hannah talk a little bit more about what she does, who she serves and a little bit about the path that got her to where she is with her business right now. So go ahead Hannah.

Hannah: O.K. So by training I am a holistic health coach which means that I look at someone’s entire being entire self, entire world, not just the food they eat but their life that they are living. That’s how everything started out for me.

What I started to notice was that we would talk about food, but then we wouldn’t talk about food. We would be talking about passion and purpose and how those were all related.

It would always tie back into the weight that we were holding on to and just all the decisions that we were making in our life if we were feeling void in our passion and our purpose. Especially for women, especially for mothers, who were often taking time at home to raise their children and feeling like something was missing.

What I started to discover was that everything that we were working on could be looked at from the place of joy. Are you feeling joyful?

And I remember the defining moment when it happened.

It was in one of my groups and we were talking with a woman, we were going around the group sharing. She was talking about how unorganized she was and how she was going to school full time and she was raising her kids and it was just like so much. And I said, I asked her what do you think you need to do? What steps do you need to take? What’s causing all this difficulty?

And she said, I think I need a planner, I think I need to get a planner. And I said, “Really. A planner. O.K. So a planner is pretty sexy stuff. Let’s talk about this planner a little bit. Has it worked for you in the past?” So we started talking about the sexy planner. I said what if one day you picked your kids up from school, you put on your favorite pair of heels and your jeans that you love and you show up at the playground as kind of hot sexy mama picking up her kids at the playground. How do you think that would feel?

So that’s kind of where this whole think came from. Let’s not look at the planners because they are not working if we are not feeling joy in our life.

From there everything started to shift a little bit more. The other piece of it, I went to a school that is very large, and a lot of moms go to the school. Institute of Integrative Nutrition and they come out and they don’t really know what they are doing. They really fear marketing and not feeling like they have any clue how to run a businesses.

Over the course of the last few years. I’ve really fallen in love with marketing, and not your typical marketing, marketing that’s done more from the heart and that’s very much inline with who you are as a person.

I’ve sort of integrated these two different worlds. The world of holistic health and joyful coaching and creative business coaching. And that’s where I am right now.

Christie: That’s great. One of the things that’s come up over and over again as I’m doing these interviews is self care. One of the interviews was with Andrea Lewicki and she talked about curiosity, using curiosity as self care. One thing she brought up is joy as a from of curiosity or curiosity could be called joy. Part of what I think about when I think about you is using joy as self care, as a way to take care of yourself.

I found that I needed a reminder, so whenever I come to your website there’s always something there that reminds me to look at this bigger picture and to get away from my planner if I need to and be present where I am with my family, with my business. So I have found that to be…that’s one of the reasons why I come to your site. Because it gives me that feeling whenever I come there. So one of the things that….when did you do Joy Up, the original Joy Up?

Hannah: that was in August.

Christie: o.k. August

Hannah: the beginning of August

Christie: Can you tell us a little bit about that (Joy Up) and then talk about the next one that is coming up, the Holiday Joy Up.

Hannah: So the Joy Up ran when Mercury was in retrograde. It was planned for this time when I knew a lot of people were going to be feeling out of sorts, really just off and confused and really not able to make big decisions. Or big, you know, big moves in their business, or anything like that because they were going to be kind of trapped. And I knew it was sort of risky for me to be doing that because I did have a lot of technical problems happen, but I felt like it was the prefect time to support people around this idea of joy.

It’s funny that program I always say it felt like it was sort of channeled through me, I knew that it was going to happen. and I knew that it was my next big thing but I really didn’t know what it was going to look like or what was going to happen. So I had to have a lot of faith. And really the idea was can you increase the amount of joy in your life in 10 days?

That was the question that I put out there. And I knew that the answer was yes. I knew that we could do that. You hear a lot of talk about 21 days and longer amounts of time and for me it’s about creating rituals so if in 10 days you can pick one thing and turn that into a ritual in your life, so we started with things like drinking lemon water in the morning, or making your bed. Very simple things that you don’t align with joy normally you don’t think of. Just like you were saying curiosity is joy. There are so many things that can bring you joy because what you are doing is taking care of yourself. And you are focusing on just being present to where you are. So things like making your bed in the morning is your present self taking care of your future self. So when you go to bed later that night and you walk into your bedroom, which should be your sacred space, and there’s this beautiful made bed. That brings you joy. It’s such a simple joy and you say wow thank you I am so glad that I did that I’m so glad I took care of myself because now when I climb into bed I know that I have that power, I have that ability to take care of myself in the future and that’s really powerful.

Christie: So from that, you um…there was a Facebook group that supported that. And there was a lot of great conversation there.

You have coming up now the holiday portion of Joy Up. Can you tell me what you have planned for that? And when that starts.

Hannah: Yes, absolutely. So that (Holiday Joy Up) starts November 26th. It actually starts whenever you sign up because you can be part of the tribe. I like to send emails you know, here and there, so you never know when one’s going to come. So when I was doing the Joy Up, I knew that the next step was going to be the Holiday Joy. I had run a program last year during the holidays and it was one of my most popular programs and I was surprised by it I couldn’t believe the amount of interest in it because we feel really isolated and alone during the holidays which is the exact opposite of how we should feel. We’re spending too much money and we don’t want to. Our kids are getting gifts that we don’t want them to get and we have this…I should be there, but I don’t want to be there, I want to be here. So much conflict and so much stress and it should be the season of joy.

Everyone keeps putting pictures up that they are finding in all of the stores joy, joy, joy, joy, joy, joy that’s the message that’s coming, but we feel out of alignment with that message at this time.

So that’s the next program and it’s really just an extension of the Joy Up. It’s taking those same fundamentals that we worked with in the Joy Up adding a few more. So layering it in just a little bit more and anyone can join. It doesn’t matter if you’ve gone through the first 10 days or not the support is there regardless. A beautiful new tribe is joining the original tribe and it’s just really beautiful to watch it all sort of unfold every time I see.

It’s a “pay what you can” program. It’s hard for me to put a price on joy. I took that pressure off myself, I said I don’t want to do this. So many people in the world have monetarily have so much, and so many people do not. In my mind, if you can pay what you can to feel accountable for yourself to go through this process so that you will do the work, then that can look like whatever it does for you.

It’s been this beautiful shift, you know of those who have so much being very generous, and there are people who are telling me “I just lost my job” and I’m so grateful that I can still be part of this group.

And that is just like…that’s my joy.

Christie: So if you sign up for the Holiday Joy, kind of give us an idea of what you can expect if you are newbie coming in what can you expect to get from you and that kind of thing.

Hannah: Absolutely, so its 10 days. Everyday for 10 days I send out a letter and it’s very… it’s a format. So everyday you know what to expect so it’s not like you have to rediscover the whole thing all over again.

A quote, a letter from me, the day’s soul work (which is the most important part) which you can just take in or actively do. Then there’s a guest or two each day. There’s a recipe and they are as healthy as possible, though in the holiday season we do add a little sugar and butter. They are all gluten free because I am. Then a daily affirmation. So each day you have this letter that you can sort of unfold in any way that works for you. You can take it all in or you can go slowly. Some people saved them up and went through them at the end, just took like an intensive day and went through them. So everybody has their own process. Which is really beautiful. Then the connection in the joy tribe which is on Facebook where we have a private group.We just share and talk and support and it’s just really lovely place to be.

Christie: It feels like getting a little care package each day whenever you get the email. Because it’s all about you, it is all about taking care of yourself and being present. So they are a lot of fun, from the Joy Up this summer, it’s fun to get those and see what your joy assignment is for the day.

What’s next? What’s next after Holiday Joy Up for you Hannah?

Hannah: So we have a …my partner, who I run a program call Mama Coach with, we have a free call coming up on December 12th. It’s at 8:30 eastern.

We are just going to be talking about doing it all. What it means to do it all. So raise a family, have a business, love your partner, spend time with them, exercise, eat well, everything. We are going to kind of throw that myth out the window and talk about what really happens inside of doing it all.

Then in January we will be launching something that we haven’t announced yet, so something’s coming. That’s just to support women and mothers who are running holistic businesses. Because we all need as much support as we can get. There’s a wealth of just amazing women with information that when we gather together it’s really incredible when that happens.

Christie: So what do the holidays look like at your house?

Hannah: That’s a good question. So for me the holidays are all about the magic and the tradition. So a lot of traditions that we’ve kept from when I was a child and a lot that we’ve had to make new to make our family work. For me, you know, it’s like sparkly lights and a Christmas tree and eggnog. And just trying as hard as possible to stay in the presence of what the season means and to not go too crazy with feeling obligated to be everywhere and to do everything. I haven’t sent Christmas cards for years and I may not do it again. Just taking things off my list so I can really enjoy the time with my kids and allow them to start to grow new traditions on their own. Not to be so locked into what I want to do. But to give them some breathing space so that they can create their own magic of the season, too. So that’s what it looks like.

Christie: On thing my daughters started on their own was an Advent calendar. We’d never done that, I’d never done that, my husband had never done that. They saw one somewhere and said what’s that and so we kind of explored that whole tradition and have brought that in. Every year they say it’s time for the advent calendar. Oh yes, I would forget if you didn’t remind me because it’s not so firmly entrenched in my mind as a tradition that I have. But it’s definitely their tradition that they’ve brought into our holiday celebration.

Hannah: Oh, it’s so nice to be able to give them that space. To have their own joy.

Christie: Their advent calendars are highly geared toward stickers so it pulls in the love of stickers that 8 year olds have. So it works on many levels.

What else would you like to say?

What kind of closing remark would you have for the mamas and the mama entrepreneurs out there as they head into the holidays?

Hannah: For me I’m back in this place of stepping outside of the rituals that keep me grounded. When I do that I start to feel sick and I get crabby and I start yelling and I don’t want to do that and I don’t spend time with my husband.

So right now I’m in that place of just finding my center again and to do that it’s through ritual. Making sure that I have my tea and things like that. I go and I do the dishes when they are piled up. I take time to sit down read so many stories that my bigger boys can’t read anymore to my little ones.

Really just going back to those rituals that ground me and center me and then my world opens up and so much is possible.

So that’s really how I think you can to reconnect to self care if feel that you’ve lost your way a little bit.

Christie: O.K. great. I thank you so much Hannah for stopping by and sharing a little bit of yourself with us today. Everybody I will have links to Hannah’s site which is Mama Space, which you can find at hannahsharvest.com. I will have that below the video as well as information on the Holiday Joy Up, which I highly recommend you do. Information on the call that Hannah mentioned the Doing It All (or not doing it all) call that Hannah is going to have in December. So I’m going to sign off. Goodbye Hannah, thank you very much.

Hannah: Thank you so much.

This week’s Women Branching Out interview features Michelle Nickolaisen of Let’s Radiate. Michelle uses her talent with details, structure, and organization to support creative entrepreneurs in their best work.

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In this interview, we chat about:

• How Michelle supports creative women entrepreneurs and solopreneurs in executing their big visions.
• The Cave of Wonders worksheets Michelle offers (for free) to help you get clarity about your big ideas and workflow.
• Michelle’s 2012 workbook & planner pack (you can win by commenting).
• Michelle’s favorite tools for recording ideas, planning workflow and projects.
• Why self-care is important for women entrepreneurs.

Listen in or read the transcript below.

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Michelle Nickolaisen of Let’s Radiate helps creative biz-peeps infuse their workflow/business with more ease + action. She does this by enabling them to create, do, and (most importantly) finish their fabulous work, while making that process no harder than it has to be.
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Transcript

Christie: Hi everybody, it’s Christie Halmick and I have with me today Michelle Nicolaisen. Hey Chelle, howdy. Michelle is from Let’s Radiate.

I wanted to read to you a little line from her email this morning, from her blog post this morning because I think it describes what she does better than I can probably describe it. So, Michelle said what she does is about “supporting,  enabling, and creating a space for you to do your great work in.” and then she says, “From what I understand, it’s actually very similar in nature to what a doula does. Just, you know, for a business vision instead of a birth.” So, I thought that was an awesome way to describe what you do and I’m going to let you even describe what you do a little bit more for everybody. What your business is about and who you serve.

Michelle: Thank you. I’m glad you liked that. I came up with that after taking to a woman named Ije Ude she’s totally awesome and I would highly recommend her. The reason…the way that metaphor sort of came about is that what a doula does, for those who are a little vague on it, is basically talk to the women at the beginning of the pregnancy and they find out the woman wants the birth experience to be like, the logistics of it, where she wants it to be and then they set everything up so that it happens. Like if problems occur, they fix the problem, they do additional research if necessary they support the support team and make sure the support team is getting clear instructions that they understand from the doula and they take action where ever the action needs to be taken. So that’s where I was coming from with that and that’s sort of what I do with people.

Like we talked about a little bit earlier before we started the call, I’m testing some different things right now because I want to make sure that I have a really comprehensive service that I can actually describe well to people so that they know what they are getting into when we work together. Because I would really rather work with people in a more deep intense manner and sometimes it can be hard to describe that adequately. You know.

Christie: So who would you say is your idea client…what kind of clients. I know you are working with a couple of people who are in really creative businesses.

Michelle: Yes, I would say like creative women entrepreneurs or solopreneurs who really, really care about what they do their work… I’ve noticed that the people that I work with and that I get the most out of with… their work is about empowering people at its base level. Whether that’s through design or teaching or branding or business learning or whatever.

Christie: What are some of the…I guess… what are some of the problems that you are solving, the things that keep coming up that get people to say “Michelle, I need you!” What are those things that keep coming up?

Michelle: Well the thing that I’ve noticed is that the people that I like to work with and the people who have the really awesome work that I can dig into, they’re big picture people and they need someone who is a detail person. I don’t think of myself as exclusively a detail person. I like to switch back and forth and between the big picture and details, but I am honestly pretty obsessed with the details. I’m a perfectionist and I can immediately spot if something isn’t going to work or if it is out of alignment with the rest of the big picture. And I can see how the little pieces of the big picture work together to create that big picture. So that’s when people come to me is when they are like “I have this big idea and I just don’t know how to handle all the details of making it happen. I have no idea where to start.” and I know where to start instinctively.

Christie: Right now you are kind of working on a project basis, kind of thing?

Michelle:  Yes, right now I’m working with Shenee Howard on a specific project with her and I’m also working with Rhiannon Llewellyn of Brand Harmony Studios and we are going to be working together in a longer-term capacity more of an overall business thing. My plan when I refine this and put it out into the world for the public is to have it available… to have what I do available on a per project basis. But also in a longer term basis of like 6 to 9 to 12 months.

Christie: Cool. I know that what you do is really…it’s really custom. I don’t….I know we had talked about before lots of people say, you’re an idea wrangler, or your an organizer but the work that you do on that level is very custom for the person that you are working with. So how do you go about, um, getting to know somebody and their work patterns and the way they work so that you can help them get out of their tangle that they are in?

Michelle: Well I have to… this has been a learning process for me because part of it is really intuitive and part of it is about the questions. But I’ve learned that you have to be careful with the types of questions you ask when you are figuring things out. Because the people I am working with…  the questions that I would be able to answer are not the questions they will be able to answer. So, like for example, when I started working with Shenee I sent her some questions and she was like I love the first part of these questions when I got to the second part where you were asking for percentages of progress on my projects and stuff it made my head hurt. I didn’t even think of that. So part of it is just asking a lot of questions and then making sure that you are asking the right kinds of questions. I’m learning what those are and part of it is just sort of getting inside their heads. I’ve had people send me time logs, detailed time logs of their work day and like I’ve got a set of worksheets that are designed to help them start spotting the problems by themselves so that they can describe them to me instead of me having to find out what the problems are if they are unclear on it, first. That’s…I think I answered your question.

Worksheet Information

Christie: yeah, yes. I was just wanting to know about your process for getting to know somebody. You mentioned worksheets and I wanted to say you have your whole Cave of Wonder worksheets and one of those worksheets is “For When You Don’t Know What to Work on Next.” I did that worksheet and I really appreciated it. So I wanted you to talk about some of the other resources that you have, while you are working on revamping your services, that people can check out.

Michelle: Yeah, so I’ve got…I might even have to pull the page up so I can describe them all because there are several things. The worksheet For When You Don’t Know What to Work on Next there’s the Idea Refinery which is for when you have an idea but I’ve noticed that part of the problem with people feeling like they are unable to act on their ideas is that they aren’t really clear so the goal… the whole goal of this worksheet is to help you figure out what is the best way to express this idea and to just get really, really clear on the endpoint so that you can start taking the action that you need. There’s also the Big Vision worksheet, which is probably my personal favorite. Just because I really like it. That walks you through the process of figuring out where you want to be in a year and in five years and then taking a look at what you are doing right now and seeing what’s supporting that vision and what’s not supporting that vision. And I think the reason that that’s my favorite is because that what a lot of the one-on-one work that I do is. And then there’s some daily and monthly dry erase template planners. And I say dry erase, but they are not technically dry erase. The idea is that you print them and then you can put them in pretty picture frames and it turns them into a dry erase board that isn’t horrifically ugly. Because most of them are. And then there are daily planners with self-care and check in practices so that you can get in the habit of asking yourself what you need and what you need to get done at the beginning of each day so that you are preventing burnout.

That’s another thing I’ve noticed…is that if people don’t have a specific practice of checking in with themselves before the start of the work week, before they start up their work day then they get really, really burned out and not the kind of burned out like, I need to take a rest after finishing this project, but the oh, my God my brain is broken I can’t even get out of bed level of burnout. Which can usually be avoided.

Christie: So, did you kind of create these as you’ve gone along figuring yourself out? Is that how these came about?

Michelle: Some of them have been… the Idea Refinery worksheet is like a piece of the process that I use for getting ideas clear and so I created that just because I thought people might like it. Daily Planners, I had been asked for those and I think Shenee also suggest I make those. The Big Vision Checkup worksheet was actually something I created from the intake questions that I’ve been giving client that I work with one-on-one. Also, I’m not sure this is relevant I’m getting ready to launch, next week…it will be a very quiet launch. I’m getting ready to announce my 2012 monthly and weekly planners. Monthly and daily planners that tie into the Big Vision worksheet.

Christie: O.K. So if somebody wants to get those they need to sign up on your list, is that how they get those?

Michelle: All of the bonuses, the Cave of Wonder stuff is on the list. The 2012 planners, the idea is to have a self-care planner pack and worksheets and that will be like $15.

Christie: O.K. Alright, I’ll have Michelle’s website and all that info below the video, so you guys can go check that out. Because they are really great resources that are free and she also has her planners for 2012 coming up which aren’t going to cost you very much but they are going to help you out. What else did I want to talk to you about? We talk a lot about ideas and I think… I guess we aren’t supposed to use this overwhelm word but, um there is idea overwhelm. there are … in any day … I have tons of ideas that, um … I don’t know what to do with. So one of the things that you talked about is what do you do with those ideas, what do you do… do just leave them hanging out in your head until they are gone, or do you write them down? what’s your way of dealing with the ideas that you get.

Michelle: I like to…and my system is probably not going to work for anyone because I’m a little neurotic about my systems. Just by nature of my personality but I like to keep track of them, I’ll write them down as soon as I get them and transfer them to Springpad. Which I like because it is searchable and I keep my project scrapbooks for lack of a better work, resources, notes and stuff so I transfer then and I’ll put them either in my references folder which is just general stuff to come back to later or a place where they are applicable. But even if… and I try to go back through them on a regular basis. The reason I have where I like to take care of something even if I don’t know if I’m going to use it. is because, like you might end up using it in part later, there have been times where I had an idea and I probably would have just forgotten it if I didn’t do something about it but because I did something about it and I took care of it and kept track of it I remembered it and then like six months or even a year down the line I’m like “oh I can use a piece of this in this and it just filled in the blank it’s like the missing puzzle piece to an idea that you might have later.

Christie: yeah, something that you already thought of that you would have forgotten.

Michelle: it’s a lot easier that way.

Christie: so you mentioned Springpad and I know….I think you have some tutorials on Springpad on your site?

Michelle: yeah, I’ve got a video.

Tools and Tips

Christie: What other kind of tools, do you have, do you work with, to… I won’t say organize yourself, but it is really sort of organization.

Michelle: yeah, uh, I use the dry erase planners that I mentioned earlier, that I made, I use those and those are like total lifesavers and I really like them just because they are something almost ritualistic about at the beginning of the morning before I even open my computer, I wipe off the stuff from the last day  and then I write everything. It is very intention setting and refreshing in my opinion. So those are a big thing for me and they are big part of keeping me on track. I also have, I actually have a paper planner, too that I keep because I like to map out  my month on the dry erase planner, or Charlie Gilkey’s planners which I also like, then I map out my week in my paper planner and then every day I transfer things from the weekly planner to the daily planner. Like I said I’m neurotic about my systems and I  will totally admit that. I love Springpad I used to use it almost like for task managment and I’ve kind of fallen off the wagon I just found something recently that I’m going to give a … it’s on my to do list to put all my project in it, either today or tomorrow called Trello. It looks like…I like it because I’m visual.  I’m a big fan of visual tools and being able to see things at a glance, so I’m planning on still using Springpad as sort of like a scrapbook or a resources place because it’s so handy and it’s visual like I said and it’s searchable and it’s really, really useful but I will probably…I’ve been looking for something else to use for like project or task management.

I’m trying to think. What else, oh I also like notebooks, I’m really big on making time to write in notebooks because I find personally that when I make a point of doing brainstorming or outlining in notebooks I have more ideas than I would have otherwise and there was actually a study done that showed that when you are writing it lights up more areas of your brain and  it lights up your right brain and your left brain as opposed to typing They think it’s because each letter is comprised of so many individual emotions and swoops and so because of that they postulated that writing would make it easier for people to be more creative and have more ideas while they are writing, which is my experience.

There’s a trick, a nifty little trick that was in the Accidental Creative that has like saved my notebooks and it’s so simple I wish I would have thought of it. At the beginning of the notebook you just take the first page and you draw a line down the middle and that’s your index page. And so you go through and number the pages, you put the page numbers on the lefthand side and whatever you are writing about on the right hand side. So I was doing outlining for a workshop presentation yesterday and so it was pages 31-35: Day of Genius workshop and all that stuff it’s super useful, helps you find stuff at a glance and it’s awesome. I’m really happy with it.

Christie: That’s great. I’m glad you told me that  because I have like four notebooks and then today I was trying to find something I knew was in one of the notebooks that I had folded down the corner of the page to remind myself  But I guess in the course of time I had unfolded the page so I could not longer find the folded page and there was like 15 minutes of time spent searching for it.

Michelle: Yeah, I have had the same experience. Especially because I really like pretty notebooks so I’ll like….I have all of these notebooks and most of them are in various states of fullness, but if I don’t have something like that to keep track of them, there’s no way I’m ever going to find anything.

Christie: That’s a great idea. So you mentioned the … brainstorming on the Day of Genius. So I want to pick your brain about what that is.

Michelle: The idea (for Day of Genius) is for it to be a digital workshop/retreat, which is something I’m doing with Melissa Dinwiddie of Living a Creative Life and we are planning it for the first weekend … the date is January 7th, we haven’t put up registration yet, early bird registrations will be the last week of November but it’s sort of a digital workshop/retreat day where you can set the tone for 2012 and to have time to think about you and your project and have time that’s set aside in this nice little contain already to figure out how you can support yourself in meeting your goals for 2012 and doing what you want to do in 2012. We’ll have…there will be a couple of different guest presenters we are going to have a yoga presentation and I’m really excited about it I think it will be a lot of fun.

Christie: So it’s sort of like a group day and where everyone’s doing their own creative endeavors.

Michelle: yeah

Christie: OK that sounds cool. So we’ll be watching for some more information from you and Melissa on that on your websites, also.

Michelle: Yeah, definitely.

Christie: Cool that sounds exciting. What else would you like to talk about? What do you have on your mind?

Michelle: I’m thinking. I don’t know, I think we covered everything I could think of to talk about.

The one thing I would say is … that I’m sure because of what you do most of the people watching this are going to be women entrepreneurs and the one thing I want to say is “Take care of yourself!” because we are really…especially women we are really bad about saying no to demands on our time. A lot of people tend to see self-care as like frivolous or unnecessary or even like selfish and it’s totally not. If you don’t make an effort to take care of yourself so that you can support yourself in doing the work you want to do it’s likely that your work quality is going to decline, your happiness is going to decline, and it will just be a big mess. So make sure that you are taking time, preferably every day and at least every week to check in with yourself and see what you need and what you can get so that you are not pushing yourself to the point of no return.

Christie: Great. I’ve been hearing that advice from everybody I’m talking to. So, I’m trying to take it to heart.

Michelle: It seems like…yeah…I remember when I was listening to the worlds biggest summit, Willo O’Brien from WilloToons.com that’s what her website is, she was talking about something similar and it makes me really happy to see that we are talking about this because I get frustrated because I feel like a lot of people became entrepreneurs because they wanted to escape that workaholic attitude and then I see people like bragging on Twitter about pulling 12 hour days or working through the weekend or whatever and it’s like that doesn’t make you a bad ass. Don’t do that. So I’m really happy to see that we’re…that people are talking about a sort of more balanced and holistic and maybe even feminine way to actually get your work done without necessarily cracking the whip and being mean to yourself because that’s not necessary and it’s not effective over the long term.

Christie: Yeah, this just really ties back into the work that you do in supporting people in getting systems and structures in place so that they can have a life outside of their entrepreneurial life that is still fulfilling. Awesome, I so appreciate you stopping by and having a conversation and I will have Michelle’s website and everything beneath the video and information on the Day of Genius will be forth coming for those of you who watch Michelle and watch Melissa Dinwiddie from Living a Creative Life that would be a great thing for everyone to take a day and care for their genius, which is what they would be doing. And also be sure to check out the worksheets that Michelle has if you sign up for her list she has a great…huge amount of stuff for free and also some other stuff coming out for sale in a few weeks. Great…  I’ll say goodbye to you now.

Michelle: Thanks for having me.

Christie: Bye.

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